In Episode 4 of Decom Talks, we have Casper from Drunetic, one of Hamza’s first sellers, to discuss his journey into the natural supplement business. Casper shares how his personal health optimization and challenges finding clean, filler-free supplements in Europe led him to start his own brand focused on 100% organic, natural products. The conversation touches on issues with mainstream pharmaceuticals, the rise in health consciousness post-pandemic, and the philosophy of empowering individuals to take control of their own health. The episode also covers recent developments at Hamza, including the launch of a DePIN device by Big Water, upcoming events like the Southeast Asia Blockchain Conference and Decom Nights in Bangkok, and new platform features like cross-chain payments, coupon codes, and direct seller chats.
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(00:00) [Music] hello everybody or good morning good evening good afternoon wherever in the world you find yourself to be welcome to the fourth decom talks on Twitter spaces we’re very happy to have with us today Casper from Junetic he’s one of our first sellers but before we get into that I would like to make some some brief announcements and well first of all last last week we had I’m sorry last last during the last talks that was on the third decom talks we had as guest the people from Big Water they’re a deepen
(00:44) company and deepen as some of you may knows or may not know stands for decentralized physical infrastructure network so what big water does is they they they deal with different data collecting data from the environment reference to to air quality and water quality and they they produce they they they manufacture this device which is an air purifier that collects different environmental data and the the owner of the device it uses it as a sort of a mining device so that he as he contributes data to the to the big water
(01:25) blockchain he gets crypto in reward so last week we launched we successfully launched we at Hamsa successfully launched the deep pin device and it’s live right now you can go in it and look up Big Water and if you buy a device which is pretty cheap cheap considering the price of these devices you may get up to a 50% rebate if you do so before April 30th okay so also we we would normally have Mike Mike Molini with us today but he’s in a in a in a few events he’s pretty busy right now he’s doing the Southeast Asia
(02:09) blockchain conference next week and there’s also a decom talks next week which also coincides with his birthday so happy birthday to you Mike in advance i know you’re listening and yes hey hello yeah how are you excellent how are you doing an I’m good i’m good yes yeah so next week we’re we’re excited for that we have decom nights and also celebrating Mike’s magical birthday yeah ing the Southeast Asian blockchain yeah it’s going to be held in Bangkok and so and we’re we’re looking forward to
(02:49) meeting great lines and what’s this great people in Bangkok so will you be there Jose i’ll try to make it for sure yeah I’m down with that i’m not not physically of course but I’ll be I’ll be around in cyerspace like as I usually am yes also we’re having some some pretty exciting well besides all this Southeast Asia blockchain conference and stuff and the decom nights which of course will well there’s lots of interesting people from the space attending um we’re also having
(03:23) some pretty interesting developments on the Hamsa front the devs are working on the cross crosschain payments we’re looking into supporting Coin and Solana payments but that’s still in the works it’s going to take some time but next week the the devs tell me they’re they’re also doing there they’re opening they’re creating support for coupon codes so that sellers can issue coupons discount coupons to the to the potential buyers and they can go in and cash in their coupons and get a rebate on their
(03:57) purchases so that’s pretty exciting and we’re also looking to support seller and the general public chat so that if anybody has a has an inquiry concerning one of the products that we sell on Hamsa they can directly contact the seller uh they can do so now but it’s it’s more of an indirect thing because you see I’m the I’m the customer support guy so most of the consumer inquiries are directed to me but in pretty soon that you’ll be able to chat with the sellers themselves so slowly but surely
(04:35) we’re getting into a full-blown e-commerce platform just like we envisioned so that’s that on that front and right now let me talk a little bit about the Jetic store and our guy Casper who’s here with us tonight i’m sorry today and well Jonetic is one of our first stores it’s one of our first seller cohorts and genetic sells natural supplements uh from various with various properties so we’re talking about natural medicine so I would like to kick off by asking Casper if Casper if you can you please
(05:16) request to talk yes thank you welcome welcome Casper casper so so how did you get started in the in the natural supplement business how how did that come about that came about that I was doing a lot of biohacking myself and optimizing my health and by doing that then sometimes you come across certain supplements that you want to use and at that moment in time I was in Europe and actually it’s not so easy to go to a normal pharmacy and get something natural and that’s really good for your body because once you start to
(05:55) get into supplements you start to know that a lot of the bigger companies actually they they want they want to portray it’s really healthy but inside if you look at the ingredient list often there’s things inside that is not very good for the body and yeah I came across that a lot of lot of the times when I was searching for certain supplements so it was actually hard to find something that was yeah I imagine I I imagine that’s that that’s very difficult and big farmer doesn’t want you to to be
(06:25) healthy either right doesn’t help but Casper when when did you begin doing this was it before the pandemic or was it in reality it’s not really that healthy and I think a lot of people come across this i’m not the only one heard the same story from a lot of other people and that’s actually what inspired me to create my own oh oops it seems that I don’t know about you guys but I’m I’m not hearing Casper oh so uh I I hear him okay Jose how about how about Yeah I heard Casper yes so uh thanks for that
(07:06) Casper how about now are you able to hear can you hear me now Jose sorry Casper i I mean you were you were seem you’re visibly talking but I’m not I wasn’t hearing you so sorry I interrupted that time because I thought you were you were finished talking i I didn’t I didn’t get the last things you said well the last thing I said was that that’s that’s the story why I got inspired to make my own it was the the fact that when you wanted to buy supplements for yourself often you find
(07:34) that some of the supplements had dextrins or some kind of fillers or stuff inside of it that shouldn’t be there and that inspired me to make my own and to find a good source where you could get everything certified organic you can get every um and you could customize it in such a way that you wouldn’t have any of the fillers or because normally when you when you work with any extracts from plants most of the suppliers they would they would actually use fillers let’s say you have a plant compound that is uh
(08:09) 95% pure whatever compound then the last 5% would be some kind of fillers and that would be maybe dextrins and dextrins are some a compound that actually spikes your blood glucose levels higher than sugar so that’s not really healthy for for you that’s why to to find a good source where you could create your own supplements and only use natural compounds 100% organic this is this is what led me to that the fact that often you would struggle to find that in in any pharmaceutical pharmacy across Europe
(08:49) when I was there and sometimes also even when you go to find supplements on various online markets that would also be often like hidden surprises that not really that good for you so that’s why sometimes it can be it can be difficult for the average person to navigate in terms of what is really good for me because a lot of it is hidden in the ingredient list and sometimes probably they don’t even show it so for me it was it was necessary to to make my own and be sure that there was not going to be any
(09:28) adverse health ingredients inside of it so like like a pure product where no hidden surprises were this is what I wanted to create and this is also what we got now actually yes Casper I I understand dextrin is is basically sugar right it’s it’s it’s what is that what they call exipient in a in a certain medical compound is that is that is that an exipient you have different dextrins but most people have heard about mealtodextrin and yeah it’s it’s it’s a sugar product and it’s it spikes your
(10:04) glucose levels higher than sugar so it’s not something that you should really aim for to have even in small amounts i would just personally I would not like it yeah but I I imagine this takes a a little bit quite a lot of knowhow actually to to be able to to find natural substitutes for these exipient compounds like dextrin so do you have some sort of like training or or or have you had some sort of training or education before you started this project did you study pharmacy or something no I didn’t study pharmacy but I’ve
(10:43) studied plants and extracts and recently let’s say half a year ago I did a a course with the traditional Chinese medicine so it’s like yeah I’m bringing knowledge from different areas put together to that’s quite a lot of study there i mean here we have something called a toxinous medicine which is what the indigenous people used and they know a lot but it’s just not recognized formally in the in the medical in the medical world and that that’s a problem because these things I I mean I personally believe
(11:19) they’re way more effective than than any pharmaceutical uh excuse the word crap that that you put in your body but yeah I imagine so so it was quite a it was quite a rabbit hole that you dived into there and Casper I was I was going to ask you when when did you start this was it before or after the pandemic well actually this this was after the pandemic i think that a lot of people became very health consscious after the pandemic and I’m one of them and it led me it led me down a rabbit hole to figure out what’s what’s actually truth
(11:56) about health and who can you trust because a lot of people use used to trust doctors and pharmaceutical all that but then you see we have the sickest population probably ever so the question is should you look for somewhere else to trust regarding your health or should you try to educate yourself to be your own doctor this is one of the things they really they want people to be able to do in let’s say traditional Chinese medicine they want people to also be their own doctor to understand their own body and not give
(12:29) their power away to somebody to some doctor in an office who which probably don’t know much about nutrition or lifestyle changes and they would rather just subscribe you a pill so you’ be a yeah a regular customer for the pharmaceut pharmaceutical industry and this is I’m very much against that i think that you should empower people to to take care of their own health and not just give them an easy solution and make them stay in their bad lifestyle if if that’s what’s causing the problems so
(13:00) finding the root cause in in terms of just symptom treating exactly which is more in line with the original medical ethos of let’s let your your food be your was it Hypocrates or somebody let your food be your medicine yeah your medicine yeah exactly so yeah I mean I’ve I’ve heard a lot of stories of people post pandemics my sister is one of those she’s a biohacker too and yeah the pandemic opened a lot of people’s eyes and like like you said it led them to take charge and responsibility of their own health
(13:36) because most people look at at a doctor it’s like okay here I am cure me but I understand that the natural medicine takes a different approach it’s like you’re also responsible for your own health so how what would you how would you what would you recommend to somebody who who wanted to learn about all this stuff and natural medicine to better appreciate your products that that you that you’re selling on Hamsa for example like to appreciate how effective they are and for what for what ailments and
(14:08) conditions they’re better suited where where would you recommend somebody start learning about this is there any bibliography or resources that you that you can recommend well I think if I were to mention a great person a great person which are very educational and that I also myself learned a lot from would be the the woman from Australia Barbara O’Neal she’s very good at also mentioning a lot about her oh yeah i love her she’s there of her her material out there on YouTube and stuff so Barbara
(14:44) Yes barbara O’Neal yeah she’s really good she knows a lot yeah so let’s get into the products that that you’re selling on on on that you that we’re selling on Hamsa you have four products basically and the the product names are are pretty much the plant like the like the main plant ingredient let’s start with let let’s see let let me let me fire up the Hamsa site and and look at these these products and go over them together and see what if you can briefly tell us like what their properties are what their
(15:21) what they’re used for and all that stuff i think the the first one is the first one that you have you have five products if I’m not mistaken here right five on Yeah yeah the first one that I’m seeing is Spirulina Moringa now moringa I’m I’m familiar with that because you see I live in Venezuela and we have this plant and and it’s pretty widely used especially among like old people and who who know something about traditional medicine they use it a lot and and I understand they use most of the plant
(15:55) parts but can you talk to us about spirulina about the spirulina moringa supplement please yeah the product well the thing is uh when you look at like synthetic vitamin and minerals compared to natural vitamin and minerals you can easily take out of proportion the synthetic ones so example would be you have a lot of calcium but not a but not enough magnesium or you have vitamin D3 but you don’t have K2 so there’s always like it it’s like if you get too much of one thing it can make an imbalance whereas if you get it from
(16:36) plant material it’s already in right proportions so you not get that imbalance and basically this is why the the natural side of or more like the holistic side of supplementation I think is sometimes a lot safer especially if you are not a super professional biohacker which knows exactly the ratio what you need then when you when you take it from nature you have already the right proportions in place so you not get like imbalances in the same Hey that was just to explain why some of the let’s say moringa is very nutrientdense
(17:16) the same as spulina so you with this product you’ll get the right proportions of what the body needs and also moringa and spulina has it actually has three three no four ingredients it has wheat grass as well and it also has ginger ginger extract so they all very alkalizing for the body which means it’s detoxifying the cells it removes heavy metals and it gives it also upregulates the body’s own well our own defense mechanism called NRF2 it’s like a gene that is expressed and one while while we
(17:57) age this expression is minimized but with the with certain plant compounds it help to express these genes again and this is our own innate defense mechanism which is uh which is very necessary for the body to handle any oxidative stress and we are exposed to that every day all the time most most people and So in this formulation you have ginger because ginger is always used to as a synergistic herb it helps move the other ingredients around the body with the blood and that in that way it boosts the whole formulation so it reaches all
(18:41) around the body and so spulina moringa is is a is a detox product at the same time it cleanses and gives you a lot of energy and it is very nutrientdense so you at the same time get a lot of vitamins minerals what you actually need and the new formulation that’s coming out is moringa extract 10 to one so you would actually get a bit more than the the let’s say the old product the the in the test phase we had the the normal spirulina maringa but now we we change it to extracted form moringa so it’s 10
(19:18) times more powerful as well okay so so this will be a new product then Casper right this well it’s it’s the same product just enhanced just just enhanced functions yeah I I get what you’re saying about the the imbalances of minerals and vitamins and stuff yeah that’s that’s that’s a big problem but I was reading on the on the on the description it talks about grass okay so spirulina binds to heavy metals yeah because it it killates with the heavy metals that that’s so they binds and microlastics i find that super super
(19:54) interesting because I Fred I I I don’t know I don’t know too much about the topic Casper and correct me if I’m wrong but I read that microplastics is like a major health problem nowadays because we get most of our stuff packaged in plastics and we have just so much plastics inside our bodies that so much BPA and and and all that stuff that it’s and it’s really really interesting to to see that this product helps get rid of of that stuff yeah some of the algaes like wheat grass chlorella spelina this
(20:29) is one of some of the most cleansing for our body to be honest to remove things that doesn’t belong and we have a lot of microplastic accumulating in the body same as heavy metals nowadays so to have something like this to to help you detox all that crap is very important because the more it accumulates the more oxidated damage or stress it also gives to the body so to try to get rid of it and to minimize the damage which is impossible not to get affected by I think is very very important for most people for every
(21:06) people everyone actually yeah oxidative stress I get that and also it’s I think it’s important that this this this product restores the alkalinity most of us due to our modern diet we we’re we’re way too acidic in our blood so this helps to restore the alkaline balance the the pH um I have I have an autistic son and autism is mostly well well there’s several theories of that one of the theories is that they have some problem in their guts and a lot of and there’s also the topic of of metals heavy metals which is
(21:46) one of the theories what that that explains how how autism is is caused but the problem is my son will not take anything like easily any any any sort of pill or capsule or that stuff so I imagine these things come in like like a sort of like a some sort of coating and and you can take it apart and maybe put the the contents of the capsule or something into a drink that he’s that he’s taking can you can you do that with easy yeah you can easily do that for sure i imagine I imagine the flavor is also not not very strong because that
(22:26) that’s a that’s a topic with autistic kids like they’re very sensitive to certain flavors and certain textures and all that stuff so it it it’s something that can go unnoticed if if you were to do that if you were to pour the the the contents of a capsule to drink well depending on how sensitive he is but I would say if you had like a juice and you put something in the juice the capsule in the juice I think it would be okay i think the thing is you can’t really change spulina and wheat grass
(23:00) moringa is not the most like delicious thing to drink but if you mix it with something else it it could go unnoticed i would say it that’s Yeah excellent i’m I’m already I’m already wanting to buy one of one of your products Casper but unfortunately it seems that you sell only within Thailand right is that is that correct well we just I found a shipping company to ship it to Europe but you you need to buy more than one product for it to make sense but yeah we are I am sending some of it to Europe i
(23:38) think I’ve sent some a package to Spain and one to Denmark and I’m going to send two more to Denmark soon and then there’s going to be products in Europe any plans of expanding to the to the Americas be it North or South America well I can send the package there as well this the shipping company do actually operate in Europe and America but and I maybe also South America to be honest but let’s say Middle East it it doesn’t it’s it’s a bit harder to find some destinations are pretty hard to
(24:12) deal with and that’s that’s a yeah a logistics is something that’s very complex but just just so that Casper recently like in our last sprint the devs developed some functionalities for for being more specific on the shipping and handling cost of of products available on Hamsa so that you’re so that the seller is able to specify with like according to the destination country you can specify the shipping cost and maybe maybe we should review after we next week we should start reviewing if if you’re if you’re having other if you’re
(24:50) offering the product to other destinations we could start reviewing like making a list of of of shipping and handling cost per the destinations that you now cover and also I was thinking I was thinking that maybe because it wouldn’t make sense to buy just one and pay a whole bunch of money just for the shipping and handling cost so I imagine that that with certain requisites like if you if you’re having if you’re buying five or more or maybe or maybe having the product in presentations of like say
(25:22) a package of 10 of 10 bottles of of of spirulina moringa for example you’re able to ship those to a to a country and pay so much in shipping and handling that sort of stuff may maybe we ought to look into that next week Casper if you don’t mind yeah we can do that easy yeah cuz I mean I think your product is I love your stuff man i wish I could buy some myself lucky Mike he bought some for you a while back ago right yeah he did yeah he he’s not here with us now i know he’s listening but I think he owes
(25:57) us an unboxing and and his and your review on Hamsa of course yeah sure i think so too yeah I think we ought to we ought to get on that so how’s your how has your Hamsa experience been Casper how do you see how do you see a decentralized marketplace like Hamsa benefiting sellers like yourself well I think it’s I think it’s something that we need in the future because certain other online platforms it can be sometimes really hard to get your product on there and right now since I’m the I’m based in Thailand and sometimes
(26:36) some of the platforms there they they want a lot of documentation and you’re trying to find everything it needs and then sometimes they just reject you without any real reason and you can’t get any explanation and then you have a a site like Hamster which is straightforward and much easier to work with and I think that the new sellers or upcoming sellers like me would Yeah I really enjoy that it’s it’s more simple to work with and easy to work with compared to some of these other older online platforms which are more let’s
(27:11) say there’s a lot of regulation and rules and sometimes you have no support to understand what’s the next step for me to have my products on here and that can be a bit frustrating sometimes when you are new and you just want your product out there to be exposed but you’re not able to for some reason yeah I I imagine that i I imagine it’s like next to impossible to to offer a product like this on on Amazon i mean because Amazon I didn’t even Yeah I didn’t even bother with that because it would be
(27:43) probably you’d have to pay for you for having your stuff there the first a long period of time so you just not really when you when you upcoming you also want to have some cash flow so if you if you’re just putting your stuff on on a site and they actually charge you more than you earn then it doesn’t make any sense yeah plastia I imagine that Amazon being the decentral the centralized monster that it is it wouldn’t be too happy if to have somebody go against the the big pharma stuff i imagine it’s just me
(28:18) talking here but yeah there’s probably something in it about that so So how did how did you hear about Hamsa how did you how did you find us Casper i met the mic at a e-commerce meeting in the Shanghai oh okay and after that yeah I just was quite curious because for me I like I like web three and I like crypto and I like well I like I think it’s quite modern and I think a lot of people will will look into that in the future because you have more freedom and you don’t need to be it’s not as difficult to have your
(28:57) for me to get my product on hamster was fairly easy and I had a lot of help and support compared to some of the other online platforms and so yeah I heard from it from Mike and I wanted I was curious and I’m happy that I have my my shop there now excellent yeah we’re very happy that you have your shop with us too because that that’s that’s a lot of value that that’s the kind of value that we seek with on Ham having sellers like yourself offer not not industrial manufacturing big pharma stuff but the
(29:31) the kind of stuff that you wouldn’t find elsewhere you you you could find it here that that’s one of my that’s one of my dreams actually seeing a whole bunch of stuff like that listed on Hamsa yeah but I would like to ask you something Casper is is your clientele familiar with crypto or do do they are are they used to paying in crypto there is some that I know is familiar with crypto but the majority are not but I think that it will change in the future and most people will be using crypto I think so
(30:08) what do you think that’s I I think so too i mean personally I I’m I’m coming from Venezuela and right now I don’t know if you’ve read anything about Venezuela but there’s a whole bunch of stuff happening with currency exchange controls and the the US sanctions on the country making it very difficult for people to deal with with US dollars or US dollar banking so if if for example I wanted to buy a product like yours and I would have to pay it through the USD through the normal banking rails and
(30:43) payment systems I wouldn’t be able to because I don’t have access to that it’s just quite quite simply that that’s how it is so in in this country most people are are flocking to cryptos just out of necessity because for us there’s no USD banking system or or euros or any of that so yeah as I see I don’t want to get too much into politics but as I see what Trump is doing sanctioning countries left and right I I I definitely do see more of a future with with these sort of platforms and and cryptos in general
(31:23) people being able to transact with with crypto and that’s that’s actually one of the main value propositions of Hamsa that that not only are you able to do that but since we use an escro system we don’t manage the users’s funds we just I mean that if if I for example if I buy a product on your store if I buy the Spirulina moringa which I hope to uh sometime soon I would I would make a payment but that payment goes into escrow what that means is that it goes into a smart contract okay and then you
(32:02) start the the pro the the order processing you you ship the product you send me the the tracking link I am able to see if the product has arrived at the destination and then once once once we know that the product is is at the final destination you mark it as delivered you as a seller would mark it as delivered and the buyer has to mark it as as as received as completed so once I do that the escore is released and you get your payment that’s it i mean no more fees no more no more fees than is necessary like
(32:42) like for example Amazon and other e-commerce platforms they charge you a whole bunch of fees for different things just for keeping your store and that stuff mike Mike could better speak about that because Mike knows quite a lot about that but a hamsa is different so I see it as a very promising a very promising proposition yeah I think it’s the way to go that you basically it’s like it’s I think it’s always like that isn’t it when when some companies get too big they just start to care less about let’s say average person
(33:19) and that’s what we don’t want we want we don’t want a lot of fees to be able to trade with one another it should be between the two parties and not Yeah exactly i mean we while we do hope to grow we’re we’re using a decentralized model which means that we won’t have a complete control monolithic control over everything over every transaction like like we’re going to freeze these this sellers funds and we’re going to screw him over uh none of that none of that because it works as a decentralized DAO
(33:54) and there’s going to be a a token to ensure that that that actors are are are are doing what they’re supposed to be doing and so that sellers are being honest and buyers are also being honest because everybody’s reputation will be on the blockchain so we we don’t we don’t we don’t intend to to have that monolithic control over everything like like other e-commerce platforms do so yeah that’s that’s the future of Hamsa but I would like you to talk a little bit more about the future of Denetic and when can we
(34:32) expect more more products more updates more I is there any any page we can follow to to to read about your journey or your recommendations for different products and stuff yeah I got I got an Instagram and I’m sharing the product information but I’m also sharing general let’s say lifestyle ways to yeah healthy lifestyle recommendation and that’s in that is inspired in how the body actually works and traditional medicine and what we used to do in the past and not just what we’ve been told to do the last 100 years
(35:12) so I’m sharing a lot of different things in there not only products but as I mentioned also like like health health advice like yeah longevity lifestyle kind of advice cuz I’m I’m I’m quite fascinated by how the body really works and what the body is capable of doing once you give it give it the right conditions and once you eliminate some of the things that is taking its energy so I’m I’m I’m using my Instagram to do that at the same time so it’s not only pure products but it’s also like what to
(35:48) avoid and which things are good for you and yeah to to put things into to try to get the average person to understand is it really matters sometimes not only what you eat but also what you eat has been eating or where it come where it comes from the source of your food a lot of things so it’s not only the products but also like general I would say longevity lifestyle advice yeah that that would definitely be for a value of immense value to a lot of people including myself it’s not it’s not just the body it’s also the mind and
(36:26) and even why not say it spirituality if you start taking if you start taking responsibility of your health and your body you’re also you’re also begin taking responsibility of your emotional well-being and and other other facets of of your of your existence i’m I’m looking forward to and I know lots of our our listeners are I’m looking forward to following you on Instagram and seeing these updates but right now Casper I’m just realizing by reading your store description on Hamsa that we
(37:02) don’t have your Instagram account there yeah that’s a mistake so that’s that that’s something we need to fix ASAP man okay le let’s get on that next week or this week as soon as possible to to to to fix that right now i don’t I don’t know if you if you were Yeah I believe that you were able to get on the seller admin panel you know that’s that’s a functionality that that our sellers have to be able to edit their store information and their product information so if you if you were to go on your
(37:36) seller admin panel I can help you with doing that later maybe tomorrow if you want uh we Yeah that would be great add your your Instagram account your and maybe other other social media accounts that that you that you would consider worthwhile putting out there so that people can follow your your information and your updates that would be that would be awesome man yeah i think is necessary so Casper any any closing thoughts on on health or on natural health or decentralized e-commerce that you’d care to share with us yeah well it’s not only
(38:19) I think the products that are going to come in the future as well is all going to have like an area of focus let’s say one of the upcoming one is going to be very focused regarding insulin resistance because most people nowadays is pre diabetic i would say 45% of the population in the world has some kind of problem with diabet pre-diabetic and that’s a major problem because that’s al you a thing like Alzheimer’s is like a pre-I well well diabetic diabetes type three so the thing is it’s one of the
(38:57) most well vicious diseases that evolves to something horrible like Alzheimer’s so I think given the conditions of the world I think to make products that also helps to combat that and reverse it is very important and that’s one of the upcoming products that’s going to be specific specific about this problem so just to Yeah so sometimes I think you need to find okay problems and try to figure out which things can can we do to solve them for the majority of people and products from nature that can help to combat some
(39:38) of these very known diseases I think is important yeah i mean diabetes diabetes and and Alzheimer like you said which is diabetes type type three that that’s no joke that that seriously affects your your life quality and and so I would I would recommend to anyone to to follow start following your your your Instagram and your your social media which we will soon be putting out there on our Hamsa store and thanks why not giving your products a try i mean I’m I’m in queue for that as soon as you start shipping
(40:17) to other countries I will be able to to Yeah to purchase some of your stuff man i’m looking forward to that so thank you so much for joining us on on this decom talks it was very educational very very interesting and I loved it i I it’s it’s been one of my best decom talks as thus far so thank you so much Casper you’re welcome right guys so as a closing closing remarks well Casper before you go do you have any questions for us i don’t think I have any real questions i think that I’m excited how how the hamster market
(41:03) will evolve in the future and I hope it will be bigger than some of the known platforms we have today because I think we need something like this for for free free trades from party to party and not too much of all the regulations and the blah blah from the other ones yeah yep my my sentiment exactly too i mean we need less of monolithic monopolies and more decentralized stuff where everybody can transact directly with each other from any part of the world without without having somebody restrict you for for any sort of reasons so so yeah I’m
(41:44) also looking forward to that future can’t wait to see it come to fruition at least on on where we’re on the front we’re fighting which is the decentralized e-commerce front so thank you so much Casper and thank you for having me i think with this we can conclude our talk so stay tuned for the next in the next two weeks for our decom talks number five where we will be having other interesting guests and thanks everyone so much for joining us good night thanks everyone so this is me signing off and over and out over and
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